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	<title>Comments on: NIU Enrollment by Campus &#8212; Er, Mostly</title>
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		<title>By: Anson MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.citybarbs.com/2012/12/20/niu-enrollment-by-campus-er-mostly/comment-page-1/#comment-116163</link>
		<dc:creator>Anson MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 00:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lynn, for five years the city&#039;s website insisted that city management projected a 2010 population of 50,000. It was obvious to most of us that this was a bogus self-serving assessment until finally in 2012 city management removed this projection.

Why are there no ramifications for living in a fantasy land and disseminating false and misleading data? 

Why are we supposed to trust anything these yahoos publish? This is why we need enhanced transparency on many fronts.

When I work on data-intensive projects, I greatly appreciate when I can share my data set and get extra eyes upon and brains wrapped around its significance. Multiple minds usually lead to the best perspective, soundest modes of communication and deepest levels understanding.

It&#039;s sad when certain parties take a proprietary interest that they and only they are qualified to cast meaning upon data sets they &quot;own&quot;. We all know it&#039;s public data, but some are slow to the realization.

Thanks again for looking into something which should have been easier to explore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn, for five years the city&#8217;s website insisted that city management projected a 2010 population of 50,000. It was obvious to most of us that this was a bogus self-serving assessment until finally in 2012 city management removed this projection.</p>
<p>Why are there no ramifications for living in a fantasy land and disseminating false and misleading data? </p>
<p>Why are we supposed to trust anything these yahoos publish? This is why we need enhanced transparency on many fronts.</p>
<p>When I work on data-intensive projects, I greatly appreciate when I can share my data set and get extra eyes upon and brains wrapped around its significance. Multiple minds usually lead to the best perspective, soundest modes of communication and deepest levels understanding.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad when certain parties take a proprietary interest that they and only they are qualified to cast meaning upon data sets they &#8220;own&#8221;. We all know it&#8217;s public data, but some are slow to the realization.</p>
<p>Thanks again for looking into something which should have been easier to explore.</p>
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		<title>By: yinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>yinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was denied by NIU because it claims it prepares only one official report, the one for the state, and that it is not obligated to generate additional data just for me.  However, in its response to the Public Access Counselor, NIU counsel proceeded to provide most of what I&#039;d asked for.  Go figure.

The suggestion that NIU has 25,000 enrollment reminds me of the city&#039;s claims (until the latest census results came out) that DeKalb was very close to 50,000 in population.  Two peas in a pod.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was denied by NIU because it claims it prepares only one official report, the one for the state, and that it is not obligated to generate additional data just for me.  However, in its response to the Public Access Counselor, NIU counsel proceeded to provide most of what I&#8217;d asked for.  Go figure.</p>
<p>The suggestion that NIU has 25,000 enrollment reminds me of the city&#8217;s claims (until the latest census results came out) that DeKalb was very close to 50,000 in population.  Two peas in a pod.</p>
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		<title>By: Anson MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.citybarbs.com/2012/12/20/niu-enrollment-by-campus-er-mostly/comment-page-1/#comment-116161</link>
		<dc:creator>Anson MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So when people say, oh yeah, NIU has 25,000 students... that&#039;s a fantasy.

NIU was approaching 25,000 enrollment at one time (&#039;08 and &#039;09 -- even after the shooting in &#039;08), but never got over the hump.

As far as DeKalb&#039;s enrollment, we&#039;re talking about closer to 19,000 (plus those who take classes here AND at least one other campus).

And of those 19,000, I wonder how many are commuters. I know the university has a department which specifically supports the commuting population... I wonder if they can help break that down.

Maybe some of this will come out during the reports compiled in NIU&#039;s $120,000 deal with the City of DeKalb sold to us by mayoral candidate Groce.

Bottom line: people need to stop talking about DeKalb hosting a 25K student population. That&#039;s a dream that was never achieved. 19K is the documented number in 2012.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when people say, oh yeah, NIU has 25,000 students&#8230; that&#8217;s a fantasy.</p>
<p>NIU was approaching 25,000 enrollment at one time (&#8217;08 and &#8217;09 &#8212; even after the shooting in &#8217;08), but never got over the hump.</p>
<p>As far as DeKalb&#8217;s enrollment, we&#8217;re talking about closer to 19,000 (plus those who take classes here AND at least one other campus).</p>
<p>And of those 19,000, I wonder how many are commuters. I know the university has a department which specifically supports the commuting population&#8230; I wonder if they can help break that down.</p>
<p>Maybe some of this will come out during the reports compiled in NIU&#8217;s $120,000 deal with the City of DeKalb sold to us by mayoral candidate Groce.</p>
<p>Bottom line: people need to stop talking about DeKalb hosting a 25K student population. That&#8217;s a dream that was never achieved. 19K is the documented number in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Anson MacDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.citybarbs.com/2012/12/20/niu-enrollment-by-campus-er-mostly/comment-page-1/#comment-116160</link>
		<dc:creator>Anson MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lynn, on what basis were you denied? That seems bizarre! Thank you so much for your inquiry on this matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynn, on what basis were you denied? That seems bizarre! Thank you so much for your inquiry on this matter.</p>
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